WEBVTT 01:33.468 --> 01:34.309 Good evening everyone. 01:34.409 --> 01:36.172 Welcome to our live broadcast. 01:39.577 --> 01:49.811 Tonight we're looking at Guttar Nikaya, Book of Fives, Sutta 154. 01:51.373 --> 01:55.118 In the Pattamasadamma Samosa Sutta. 02:01.247 --> 02:02.108 Samosa. 02:10.205 --> 02:12.248 Funny, isn't a samosa an Indian food? 02:12.268 --> 02:22.841 I don't suppose that's where it comes from, because samosa here means, it comes from samoha. 02:26.285 --> 02:36.017 Probably a corruption of moha, or related to the word moha, mooh. 02:36.037 --> 02:37.579 So it means... 02:42.925 --> 02:56.496 The corruption, perhaps, or the loss, the clouding, let's say, the clouding of the good Dhamma. 03:04.036 --> 03:07.443 Maybe it's the loss of the good time or the lapse. 03:08.646 --> 03:16.662 And then, so samosaya antaradhana, antaradhana, antaradhana means the disappearance. 03:32.116 --> 04:00.115 So we're concerned about this We're concerned about what causes the Dhamma to become clouded and lost to fade away to not shine bright to not appear in all its splendor in the world We should be concerned about this for our own well-being 04:01.529 --> 04:28.735 keeping the Dhamma clear in our own minds in our own lives we should also be concerned in general that the Dhamma remain in the world the Dhamma being that which is considered good that which keeps people from falling into corrupt evil ways and hurting and killing each other and manipulating each other 04:30.166 --> 04:33.129 and torturing and hurting ourselves. 04:36.693 --> 04:39.356 It's what brings light to the world. 04:41.879 --> 04:47.025 That's what we mean by the Dhamma, the truth, righteousness, reality. 04:48.527 --> 04:56.055 Because delusion, illusion, falsehood, unrighteousness, all of these things 05:00.237 --> 05:02.140 They darken the world. 05:04.884 --> 05:09.771 Some people lack love and compassion and sympathy. 05:11.013 --> 05:15.679 They lack equanimity and objectivity and impartiality. 05:16.941 --> 05:23.190 And they become partial and jealous and conceited and greedy. 05:27.237 --> 05:31.822 So the Dhamma, it's of great importance that the Dhamma stay in the world. 05:33.684 --> 05:37.968 And that we work to keep the Dhamma in the world, not just in this life, but in the next life. 05:39.790 --> 05:44.615 It's not enough to think, well, I know the Dhamma, so I don't have to help keep the Dhamma in the world. 05:47.779 --> 05:50.882 If we don't become enlightened in this life, we'll have to come back and 05:52.499 --> 05:54.061 We'll still need the Dhamma in the future. 05:55.302 --> 05:57.224 It's like why we have to worry about the environment. 05:57.665 --> 06:04.693 I'm going to die soon and I won't have to be around to deal with the effects of climate change. 06:04.713 --> 06:06.855 Ah, ah, ah, not so fast. 06:09.618 --> 06:11.901 It's not about just leaving it for the next generation. 06:12.001 --> 06:13.663 We are the next generation. 06:14.664 --> 06:21.612 If you happen to be born as a human again next life, yeah, it's not looking so good. 06:25.237 --> 06:54.248 not in terms of the environment anyway it's going to get hotter today was hot for an October day in Ontario anyway so we need the Dhamma the Dhamma is what keeps the world cool it's what keeps the world pure and so as we lose the Dhamma we become more coarse the world becomes more corrupt and polluted 06:56.894 --> 07:21.147 our minds become more corrupt and polluted and the world around us as well so we have in the book of fives we have five dhammas panchime bhikkave dhamma that lead to the disappearance the confounding the loss of the dhamma 07:23.202 --> 07:24.164 And there are several suttas. 07:24.184 --> 07:30.815 This is the first one, but I like this one because it relates to something specific. 07:31.255 --> 07:35.302 These five are related to learning the Dhamma. 07:35.322 --> 07:36.785 How do we preserve the Dhamma? 07:36.805 --> 07:37.906 We have five ways. 07:39.790 --> 07:44.077 Five ways that we are unable to preserve the Dhamma. 07:44.157 --> 07:44.798 Five reasons. 07:44.878 --> 07:49.125 The first one is that we don't respectfully listen to the Dhamma. 07:51.080 --> 08:11.485 na sakacang dhammang sunanti sakacang means respectfully with some measure of sincerity and severity we take it as a joke come on here you listen to me for some entertainment and 08:12.393 --> 08:41.877 maybe you post some funny questions and maybe you sit and laugh about it or sit with your friends drinking beer and listening to the Dhamma smoking and listening to the Dhamma eating and listening to the Dhamma maybe eating you could make an allowance for that but 08:43.021 --> 09:01.063 Still, not really, because when you listen to the Dhamma, well, when you cultivate this mind state of not taking it seriously, the biggest thing is you don't retain in the same way as if you were listening mindfully. 09:02.292 --> 09:11.643 Listening and meditating is a really good way because your mind is much more receptive, much more able to get the gist of what's being said. 09:11.964 --> 09:18.672 If you're distracted by anything, it's not a good way to listen to the Dhamma. 09:18.752 --> 09:23.558 Exercising and listening to the Dhamma, you go for a run and you listen to a talk. 09:26.727 --> 09:52.988 maybe maybe you're just too distracted because you're running because you're tired something to think about that when we do listen to the Dhamma especially now because we have such access to talks we can drive and listen to the Dhamma and some people say well that's great when I you know I can drive and gives me a because I drive for an hour a day or two hours a day and it gives me an opportunity to listen 09:55.583 --> 09:58.507 There's something about it still because your mind is not fully on it. 09:59.409 --> 10:02.093 Your mind is half on the driving and half on the dumb rides. 10:03.835 --> 10:09.023 That would be considered not with any measure of sincerity. 10:09.644 --> 10:15.333 Not with a full measure of care and sincerity. 10:16.114 --> 10:17.716 Your mind isn't fully engaged. 10:21.622 --> 10:22.063 But I think 10:23.022 --> 10:24.605 I think that's all maybe conjecture. 10:26.067 --> 10:29.393 Clearly what the Buddha is saying here is without respect, disrespectfully. 10:29.974 --> 10:43.798 So if you listen without any feeling of the importance of the Dhamma, of course doing all those running, driving, you can still have a sense of appreciation of the Dhamma, respect. 10:46.208 --> 10:47.209 It's something to consider. 10:47.229 --> 10:48.530 It's not fully respectful. 10:49.271 --> 10:59.441 It's not reverent in the same way as if you turn off, close all the windows, shush everyone, sit respectfully, quietly, and listen to the Dhamma. 10:59.461 --> 11:00.882 It's much more respectful. 11:01.583 --> 11:04.826 I think to some extent it's preferred. 11:04.846 --> 11:11.693 I think it is definitely preferred and may actually be considered disrespectful to do 11:12.297 --> 11:33.934 it's not like listening to music to go for a run and listen to the Dhamma I'm not convinced that because what you're saying is I can do two things at once I'm going to listen to the Dhamma but I'm also going to get in shape your intentions during it are not pure I mean not purely Dhamma not purely I want to learn the Dhamma 11:39.145 --> 11:39.866 That's the first one. 11:39.886 --> 11:44.992 Nasak, number two, nasakachang dhammang paryapunanti. 11:46.875 --> 11:48.957 Paryapunanti means to memorize. 11:52.762 --> 11:55.425 To, or to comprehend. 11:57.348 --> 11:59.110 To master the dhamma. 12:02.094 --> 12:04.917 Master probably just refers to memorizing. 12:09.031 --> 12:11.414 or going over it. 12:12.676 --> 12:16.961 So, this is actually, these are steps, right? 12:17.181 --> 12:24.070 Listening to the Dhamma is something you have to do respectfully, but sometimes you listen and you don't have any sense of the need to remember it. 12:25.512 --> 12:30.878 You say, okay, well that was really an interesting talk, and then you forget about it and go home. 12:30.898 --> 12:33.081 This is called someone who keeps the Dhamma in their lap. 12:34.985 --> 12:46.704 It's the person with lap dhamma, because if you put anything on your lap, then when you stand up, it all, like if you have some beans or rice or something on your lap, and then you stand up, it all flies all over the place. 12:47.064 --> 12:47.685 You can't keep it. 12:48.967 --> 12:54.396 Someone who has the dhamma on their lap, because when they stand up, they're listening to the dhamma quietly. 12:54.977 --> 12:56.620 When they stand up, they forget it. 12:57.621 --> 12:58.663 It scatters. 13:00.466 --> 13:06.135 So not just listening and saying, oh that was really nice that I listened to the Dhamma. 13:06.155 --> 13:20.116 In order to keep the Dhamma, in order to preserve the Dhamma for yourself, even just for yourself, but also just as keeping the Dhamma in the world, we have to remember it. 13:21.478 --> 13:27.047 We have to think of these five things, these four things, 13:28.445 --> 13:31.890 These lists we should keep in mind, try to remember. 13:39.922 --> 13:40.523 Number three, . 13:41.204 --> 13:50.318 I'm not really sure what means. 13:51.559 --> 13:53.322 Let's look at the difference between these. 13:59.545 --> 14:04.718 Reeds? 14:15.043 --> 14:15.765 I don't know. 14:15.785 --> 14:15.985 Valmjinti? 14:31.000 --> 14:34.918 That's your bhikkhu bodhisattva, by the way. 14:39.303 --> 14:42.027 Because the third one is keep, ah, okay, okay. 14:42.047 --> 14:43.690 So the second one is memorizing it. 14:44.090 --> 14:46.954 When you're in the process of remembering it, committing it to memory. 14:48.116 --> 14:50.720 Number three is dharinti means to hold. 14:51.161 --> 14:53.404 So dharinti actually comes from the word dharma. 14:53.464 --> 14:56.989 That's where the word dharma comes from, or dhamma. 14:57.350 --> 14:58.452 But it's a different meaning. 14:58.752 --> 15:01.396 Here dharinti means one holds it. 15:02.257 --> 15:04.821 So you've remembered it, you retain it in your memory. 15:07.130 --> 15:12.376 Sometimes you remember something, it's fine, I remembered it, but then you never think about it again. 15:14.579 --> 15:21.728 So really the meaning here is Buddhists should be keeping this stuff in mind. 15:21.808 --> 15:26.834 Monks will recite these things, should be going over these, reading them. 15:27.175 --> 15:30.859 Nowadays we have books, we read them again and again to keep them in mind. 15:39.074 --> 15:40.377 Number four. 15:48.453 --> 16:00.998 So that dhamma which has been kept in mind. 16:05.770 --> 16:19.898 One doesn't, and again, each one is the word, the word is used, it involves careful and carefully, thoroughly, respectfully, with a sense of reverence or a sense of importance. 16:20.587 --> 16:32.404 It's interesting, this word, sakatjang, if we're going any further, it's funny to come across this because I'm working on a research project to redefine the word religion. 16:33.866 --> 16:49.589 In this course I'm taking on the study of religion, we have to do a research project, so I chose as my research project the study of the word religion in an attempt to redefine it. 16:49.609 --> 16:50.290 And 16:51.518 --> 16:52.579 I'll cut right to the chase. 16:52.619 --> 16:56.404 My definition of religion is that which you take seriously. 16:57.345 --> 17:02.411 And this word sakatjang sums that up quite well. 17:02.692 --> 17:05.976 This is the essence of religion in my mind. 17:06.776 --> 17:08.939 Religion doesn't have to do with God or faith. 17:08.999 --> 17:10.381 That's not the meaning of religion. 17:12.543 --> 17:15.467 Just because you believe in God doesn't mean you're religious, you see. 17:16.865 --> 17:23.238 In the same way, just as I believe in Australia, that doesn't make me religious, because I don't care. 17:23.519 --> 17:27.066 I believe in Australia, but it doesn't move me. 17:27.787 --> 17:32.617 I don't place any importance on that knowledge, or I place very little importance. 17:33.319 --> 17:37.928 So it's very unreligious, relatively speaking. 17:37.908 --> 17:40.292 So some people are like that with God. 17:40.332 --> 17:42.935 They believe in God as Christians or Jews. 17:43.376 --> 17:44.358 Jews, it's a big thing. 17:44.698 --> 17:46.521 Believe in God, but it doesn't mean anything to them. 17:46.561 --> 17:48.564 It's like, yeah, so what? 17:48.584 --> 17:49.645 It's not important to them. 17:50.727 --> 17:52.229 It doesn't affect how they live their life. 17:53.070 --> 17:54.853 But they, you know, kind of believe in God. 17:56.825 --> 18:01.490 And then there's the people who the belief in God is very important to them and it informs their life. 18:02.391 --> 18:03.572 They take it seriously. 18:04.132 --> 18:05.514 So it's very religious for them. 18:06.535 --> 18:07.596 People do that with dieting. 18:07.756 --> 18:09.058 People diet religiously. 18:09.118 --> 18:10.639 They exercise religiously. 18:10.679 --> 18:13.262 It means they take it seriously. 18:13.282 --> 18:15.224 Other people diet not so religiously. 18:16.085 --> 18:16.785 Irreverently. 18:19.108 --> 18:20.089 Sacrilegiously. 18:20.149 --> 18:23.092 Unreligiously. 18:23.132 --> 18:24.233 They don't take it seriously. 18:29.849 --> 18:35.555 So this idea here, this one will be a really good, this word will be a really good word to use. 18:37.036 --> 18:39.179 Talking about Buddhist. 18:39.919 --> 18:43.823 I was just thinking, maybe I'll write a book one day called Buddhist Religion. 18:46.726 --> 18:57.898 And the idea will be not to talk, not just another book that tells you about Buddhism, but a book that tells you about religion from the point of view of a Buddhist. 18:59.262 --> 19:01.467 I think that would be an interesting book to read, to write. 19:02.168 --> 19:05.576 Because then it would be a little more practical. 19:06.097 --> 19:12.070 You'd make religion the focus and then it's all about you, the path. 19:12.151 --> 19:15.578 It's about spirituality. 19:15.879 --> 19:18.705 It's a universal topic. 19:20.221 --> 19:26.594 But then you look at how a Buddhist sees that, how the Buddha saw that, right? 19:26.615 --> 19:29.020 You look at where religion came from for the Buddha. 19:29.420 --> 19:30.924 How did the Buddha come to religion? 19:34.732 --> 19:38.199 And then you look at how the Buddha taught. 19:38.259 --> 19:41.065 What was the essence of religion to the Buddha? 19:43.255 --> 19:51.684 But you try to make it sort of universal, not saying this is something that belongs to the Buddha, but it's how the Buddha saw the religious life. 19:51.764 --> 19:54.887 The brahmacharya is another good word, right? 19:54.907 --> 19:56.289 He didn't use the word Buddhism. 19:57.650 --> 19:59.472 He rarely used the word buddhasasana. 20:03.136 --> 20:07.020 But he often used the word brahmacharya, which was a word he borrowed. 20:07.640 --> 20:09.162 It's a word that just means the holy life. 20:11.791 --> 20:14.094 Maybe I'll write a book called Buddhist Religion someday. 20:15.075 --> 20:15.275 See? 20:15.455 --> 20:16.556 Good comes of studying. 20:16.616 --> 20:20.981 Those of you who are concerned that I'm going back to university, this was the point. 20:22.183 --> 20:26.928 Agree or not, you can let me be able to write a book someday. 20:28.770 --> 20:31.213 Another book. 20:31.233 --> 20:33.535 Great, huh? 20:33.555 --> 20:35.177 So, the word sakacang. 20:35.438 --> 20:38.541 Sakacang means seriously or sincerely. 20:41.288 --> 20:59.426 So those Dhammas that have been memorized, one does not sincerely or seriously undertake to upaparikanti, to examine, to study, contemplate, to investigate. 21:00.127 --> 21:08.195 So if you learn about the four satipatthana, you don't, that sounds nice, but you don't ever think about how do you practice that? 21:08.395 --> 21:09.456 What does this mean? 21:10.600 --> 21:17.627 It's funny how you could read the Satipatthana Sutta and not ever get to the point where you, oh, Buddha's actually talking about doing this. 21:17.928 --> 21:20.731 It's not just something you read and say, oh, yes, I agree with that. 21:21.792 --> 21:26.076 It's funny how we can read these practical manuals and say, yeah, I agree with that, I'm a Buddhist. 21:27.157 --> 21:28.459 I think that's a great thing to do. 21:30.080 --> 21:32.683 Sometimes you get this about Buddhists about meditation. 21:32.703 --> 21:34.285 They say, oh, yes, meditation is great. 21:34.305 --> 21:34.825 Do you meditate? 21:34.845 --> 21:35.306 Oh, no, no. 21:36.387 --> 21:38.329 I don't have time, but I know it's great. 21:39.592 --> 21:45.520 Which is not something to be laughed at exactly, but it's a shame, really. 21:45.560 --> 21:51.068 That's the next step, actually. 21:51.088 --> 21:54.453 But this one means we don't even investigate it. 21:54.934 --> 21:59.901 We don't even think about what it means. 22:01.383 --> 22:02.224 We memorize it. 22:03.436 --> 22:04.558 I guess that's where the point is. 22:04.618 --> 22:11.851 Up to this point, the things that we've talked about are memorizing, keeping in mind, but even a parrot can do that. 22:15.057 --> 22:20.366 My teacher was, he was, he's good at backhand compliments. 22:21.508 --> 22:25.936 He, on several occasions, I used, I got really good at speaking Thai. 22:27.679 --> 22:28.380 And, uh, 22:30.335 --> 22:31.496 Well, and I have a good memory. 22:31.697 --> 22:33.199 So I memorized the Patimokkha. 22:34.320 --> 22:35.061 He asked me to. 22:35.081 --> 22:36.643 He asked me to memorize the Patimokkha. 22:36.663 --> 22:39.907 He was asking every monk, though, so I wouldn't take that to mean anything. 22:39.947 --> 22:41.349 Everybody, he was pushing them to learn. 22:41.890 --> 22:43.532 The Patimokkha are the rules of the monks. 22:44.593 --> 22:46.736 And so he pushed us to memorize. 22:46.756 --> 22:49.980 He was pushing monks to memorize it, which I think is important. 22:49.960 --> 22:53.365 It's one of his duties as a head monk. 22:54.947 --> 22:56.830 But I took it seriously and I learned it. 22:57.872 --> 23:06.805 And he was praising me about it all the time saying, oh yes, it's like he talked about these 23:10.261 --> 23:12.925 But he used the idea of a parrot. 23:12.945 --> 23:15.849 Anyway, he's always talking about this western person. 23:16.510 --> 23:25.623 There's a really famous American, I think, who learned how to sing Thai songs and sound just like a Thai person. 23:26.464 --> 23:27.325 He was very famous. 23:27.585 --> 23:30.169 I think there's a couple, actually, maybe a man and a woman. 23:30.670 --> 23:35.557 They were able to sing Thai songs and they became very famous in Thailand because they sound just like Thai people. 23:36.498 --> 23:38.040 And he was saying, well... 23:38.020 --> 23:44.889 Here we have Pranoha. 23:45.891 --> 23:49.315 We can't teach him to sing, so we got him to learn the Bhati Moka. 23:55.043 --> 24:02.593 I don't remember how the parrot came in, but he did manage to insert the parrot analogy in there, just like a parrot. 24:06.944 --> 24:08.787 It doesn't really say anything yet. 24:09.308 --> 24:16.518 The rules are fun because some monks memorize all the rules and then don't keep them all, right? 24:16.959 --> 24:19.563 Or don't have any sense of trying to keep them. 24:21.626 --> 24:22.508 That's unfortunate. 24:24.771 --> 24:26.494 I was talking about the rules. 24:27.335 --> 24:29.178 Anyway, let's not go into that so much. 24:29.198 --> 24:30.480 I was talking about that today. 24:31.762 --> 24:33.424 All these rules that monks have. 24:35.378 --> 24:36.681 I won't go into that though tonight. 24:37.863 --> 24:42.252 The point here is just memorizing but not thinking about what does this actually mean? 24:42.292 --> 24:45.298 Not even using it as teachings, right? 24:46.180 --> 24:54.556 Memorizing it and then even sometimes you memorize it and you can tell it to others but you've never thought about using it yourself, right? 24:54.576 --> 24:55.378 Investigating. 24:57.400 --> 24:58.021 thinking about. 24:58.061 --> 25:05.732 I think foreigners, newcomers to Buddhism don't generally have this problem. 25:06.954 --> 25:18.470 They may have the problem of not being concerned with memorizing because they don't generally have the same sense, the deep sense of religiosity, I think. 25:18.731 --> 25:24.038 So they may not as much memorize, but that's not even true. 25:24.058 --> 25:26.682 Sometimes newcomers are best in all things because 25:28.045 --> 25:33.011 They don't have the sort of taking it for granted that cultural Buddhists might. 25:34.572 --> 25:41.180 Anyway, all of us, cultural or not, to make it a religion, we have to take it seriously. 25:41.921 --> 25:46.746 So we have to actually not just memorize, but investigate, study, think about. 25:46.767 --> 25:51.572 That's number four, right? 25:53.628 --> 25:57.994 So we listen to the Dhamma with respect, respectfully. 25:58.955 --> 26:00.597 We memorize it respectfully. 26:00.657 --> 26:04.863 We keep it memorized. 26:05.043 --> 26:06.705 If you don't keep it up, you'll forget it. 26:07.546 --> 26:12.372 We do that respectfully or sincerely or with care, carefully. 26:14.575 --> 26:17.459 And then we study it or we investigate it. 26:18.220 --> 26:21.424 We work out ways to apply it. 26:24.425 --> 26:26.248 Let me do that carefully. 26:26.268 --> 26:27.770 I'm sincere about that. 26:28.632 --> 26:30.274 And number five, nasa kacang. 26:30.615 --> 26:31.396 These are negatives. 26:31.416 --> 26:32.618 This is how it's going to decline. 26:32.638 --> 26:33.980 If we don't do this, it'll decline. 26:35.001 --> 26:50.145 So number five, nasa kacang attamanyaya dhamamanyaya dhammanudhamang patipajanti which means 26:52.201 --> 26:53.142 Understand. 26:53.222 --> 26:55.184 Anjaya. 26:56.025 --> 26:57.487 Is that referring to knowledge? 27:00.851 --> 27:02.633 Manyaya. 27:02.653 --> 27:03.234 Manyaya. 27:09.481 --> 27:10.062 Manyaya. 27:17.951 --> 27:19.132 Manyaya. 27:20.134 --> 27:20.554 Manyaya. 27:23.622 --> 27:26.186 Oh, right. 27:26.466 --> 27:34.457 So that Dhamma which you have thought about, because the last one was one thinks about it, if one doesn't think about it, respectively. 27:35.018 --> 27:42.508 This one, having thought about it, having thought about the Dhamma and the meaning of the Dhamma, attamanyaya dhammamanyaya, 27:43.957 --> 27:45.980 I think that's what that means. 27:47.542 --> 27:51.027 One doesn't practice the Dhamma respectfully. 27:52.208 --> 27:54.472 And Dhamma, Nudhamma is an interesting compound. 27:54.492 --> 28:10.133 It's taken to mean practicing the Dhamma, which is the mundane teachings, in order to realize the Dhamma, which is the truth, the underlying truth and reality that is taught by the Dhamma. 28:10.153 --> 28:11.936 One doesn't practice to realize the truth. 28:12.997 --> 28:13.558 It'll still 28:15.361 --> 28:17.904 the Dhamma will still fade away and disappear. 28:20.167 --> 28:31.120 So I think this is good because as you see it gives us a clear understanding of how the Dhamma is supposed to be, is meant to be approached. 28:32.943 --> 28:36.627 Yes, learning the Dhamma is important, listening to the Dhamma is important. 28:37.308 --> 28:39.371 Yes, memorizing the Dhamma is important. 28:39.411 --> 28:42.955 Yes, keeping it in mind is important. 28:45.162 --> 28:52.472 But as well, investigating the Dhamma is important and practicing it. 28:52.492 --> 28:58.961 Practice has to be based not only on memorizing and keeping in mind, but also on proper understanding. 28:59.001 --> 29:00.343 And that's what investigating means. 29:00.363 --> 29:02.586 It doesn't mean you sit around thinking about the Dhamma a lot. 29:03.387 --> 29:09.195 It means you actually go from just memorizing it as words to actually thinking about it as practice. 29:10.559 --> 29:16.790 And that's the bridge between memorization and actual practice. 29:17.391 --> 29:22.680 So it's a simple, I mean there's nothing terribly deep or profound here, but it's quite clear and useful. 29:22.720 --> 29:28.770 That's what you can say about a lot of the Buddhist teachings, it's so simple. 29:28.750 --> 29:37.223 It just cuts away all the fat, trims away all the fat and all the chaff and you're left with just the pith and substance. 29:38.165 --> 29:45.816 So here we have five clear steps that keep the Dhamma from declining. 29:46.137 --> 29:47.419 So here you have the Buddha's words. 29:48.380 --> 29:49.442 If we do this, 29:51.481 --> 30:18.433 if we listen to the Dhamma respectfully, religiously, for lack of a better word, if we memorize the Dhamma religiously, if we keep the Dhamma in mind religiously, if we think about the Dhamma religiously, or investigate or try and understand the Dhamma, and that Dhamma that we've thought about, if we put it into practice religiously, sakkha-cang, 30:20.708 --> 30:41.569 These five Dhammas cause the Dhamma Sat Dhamma Sat Titya Asamosaya Anantra Dhanaya Samutanti They lead to the staying of the Dhamma, the fixing of the Dhamma, firmness, the non-fading away, non-disappearance. 30:44.933 --> 30:48.537 So, there you go. 30:48.557 --> 30:49.838 That's the Dhamma for today. 30:52.568 --> 30:53.389 Questions? 30:53.830 --> 30:55.012 We've got a whole bunch of questions. 30:55.053 --> 30:56.796 I'm going to be gone for a week. 30:57.477 --> 31:05.231 No more broadcasting, at least until Thursday, probably Friday of next week. 31:06.974 --> 31:08.257 So get your questions in now. 31:14.829 --> 31:15.049 Or wait. 31:26.673 --> 31:27.815 Robin, are you with me? 31:28.656 --> 31:29.357 I am, yes. 31:29.397 --> 31:29.798 I'm sorry. 31:29.818 --> 31:31.180 The page is just loading up. 31:31.361 --> 31:48.428 Here we go. 31:52.272 --> 31:59.292 Hello, when I am meditating and I start thinking about something, I say thinking, thinking, but then it seems that the thought stops. 31:59.914 --> 32:04.528 So I don't feel that I'm looking at the thought as it is, but that I have stopped the thought. 32:05.390 --> 32:06.754 What do you think about this? 32:07.679 --> 32:11.142 Yeah, that's, of course, that's what's going to happen because you've got a new thought. 32:11.502 --> 32:13.805 But that's not a problem. 32:13.865 --> 32:21.131 You see, the point of the noting is to cultivate a sense of this is this, that's all it is. 32:21.331 --> 32:21.952 What was that? 32:22.793 --> 32:26.856 Normally we say that was bad, that was good, that was me, that was mine. 32:27.997 --> 32:30.179 When you say thinking, you're saying that was thinking. 32:30.980 --> 32:33.462 So yeah, it's gone, but that's all it is. 32:33.522 --> 32:37.686 Then you can leave it because you understood that that was thinking. 32:37.666 --> 32:43.309 The point is to stop the judgment, to stop the reaction. 32:43.811 --> 32:47.828 And that's accomplished, so back to your practice. 32:54.592 --> 32:56.194 What do you think about Facebook? 32:56.694 --> 33:02.359 I started to notice that any information that comes through Facebook will come up in meditation in one way or another. 33:03.260 --> 33:08.745 My mind is occupied with useless information, which I try to be free from, not to obtain more. 33:09.466 --> 33:10.447 How much is too much? 33:12.028 --> 33:19.836 Well, trying to be free from information is not proper practice. 33:19.856 --> 33:21.577 Information is just information. 33:22.698 --> 33:24.480 You should note it as thinking, thinking, 33:26.249 --> 33:28.679 So in that sense, Facebook isn't a problem. 33:28.719 --> 33:32.012 But there is a problem with too much information. 33:32.072 --> 33:36.630 Practically speaking, it makes it more difficult to be mindful. 33:38.517 --> 33:52.577 The big problem is that when you're not mindful and for example you're looking at Facebook you're not clear in your mind so there's a lot of delusion being built up and confusion and that's going to come back. 33:52.597 --> 33:56.984 That's what's going on in the meditation when you think about these things. 33:58.085 --> 33:59.327 There's a sense of 33:59.307 --> 34:15.706 But ignorance, if nothing else, means that at the moment when you're thinking about these things again, you're not clearly aware of them just as thoughts, so you start to judge them as a result. 34:15.726 --> 34:22.094 But it's important that you understand that in the terms of the practice, we're not trying to get rid of the thoughts. 34:22.995 --> 34:25.618 Just see the thoughts as thoughts, no matter how much they come up. 34:27.083 --> 34:29.006 What do I think about Facebook in general? 34:29.026 --> 34:30.709 I think Facebook is a terrible thing. 34:32.351 --> 34:40.644 I've never found Facebook to be in any way, on any meaningful level, meaningful. 34:43.008 --> 34:49.578 There's just too much humdrums, maybe, Lord, I don't know. 34:52.983 --> 34:54.205 It's too worldly for me. 34:56.328 --> 35:00.174 So that's what I think about Facebook. 35:00.194 --> 35:02.137 I guess that's sort of what you're finding as well. 35:02.238 --> 35:05.082 I wouldn't use Facebook. 35:05.102 --> 35:06.464 You know what's a much better place? 35:06.785 --> 35:14.978 I'm not sure if I should be saying it, but if you're interested in the kinds of things that should be on Facebook, a good place is Reddit. 35:16.493 --> 35:17.634 Reddit.com. 35:17.995 --> 35:19.837 I think much higher of Reddit. 35:21.600 --> 35:31.132 If you're able to sift through the garbage on Reddit, there's a real... People are very intelligent and they have good answers about things. 35:31.973 --> 35:42.707 You'll have an article on some science or some health issue or even there's a Buddhism channel and you'll have people talking about it and giving really good answers. 35:44.530 --> 35:45.471 Good comments. 35:47.105 --> 35:58.108 So if we're just talking as friends about places on the internet that are of any good, I think Reddit's better. 36:00.112 --> 36:02.397 Which I'm sure there's a lot of garbage on Reddit as well. 36:22.272 --> 36:22.653 Hello. 36:22.713 --> 36:29.846 Should I note disliking and aversion, or should I go back to trying to see the object as it is, as I have failed to do that? 36:30.267 --> 36:30.727 Thank you. 36:33.653 --> 36:35.396 You should note disliking and aversion. 36:38.462 --> 36:39.183 Don't ignore them. 36:39.223 --> 36:40.365 Don't go back to the object. 36:42.522 --> 36:44.104 That's in the past. 36:44.304 --> 36:45.346 Note what's in the present. 36:45.546 --> 36:48.310 If there's disliking or aversion, note that. 36:49.271 --> 36:52.235 But, you know, that'll go in a moment and then you'll be back at the object. 36:52.255 --> 36:52.735 That's fine. 36:52.795 --> 36:53.677 Note the object again. 36:55.138 --> 36:57.942 Back and forth. 36:58.703 --> 37:05.472 But yeah, once you've noted something and it goes away, try to go back to the stomach, really, if you're in meditation. 37:05.792 --> 37:07.855 Try to ground yourself on something. 37:19.495 --> 37:21.058 Why am I not seeing these highlighted? 37:21.078 --> 37:25.866 I'm having more problems with my computer today. 37:25.886 --> 37:26.487 I don't know. 37:28.070 --> 37:28.912 It might be my internet. 37:28.932 --> 37:37.066 I think we've got to talk about this website, what's going on with it, because this Ask tab doesn't work the way one would hope it might. 37:39.991 --> 37:42.376 Now I'm just getting a spinning circle. 37:43.357 --> 37:43.798 Yeah. 37:49.330 --> 37:50.732 I think it might be the web server. 37:51.412 --> 37:53.034 Our server has to be upgraded. 37:53.054 --> 37:56.778 We have to get a better something. 37:58.701 --> 37:59.301 More power. 38:00.943 --> 38:01.724 There's a thing. 38:01.784 --> 38:03.045 We moved away from Amazon. 38:03.786 --> 38:06.309 And Amazon, the one thing, it's expensive. 38:06.589 --> 38:08.652 And the funny thing is we're still paying for Amazon, right? 38:09.593 --> 38:10.234 Yes. 38:10.254 --> 38:11.535 We have to move away from that. 38:11.695 --> 38:14.218 But Amazon is really powerful. 38:15.479 --> 38:17.802 So it would never stall like this. 38:30.927 --> 38:32.991 Okay, I got it back. 38:33.011 --> 38:37.318 Did you even click on the... You didn't even highlight that one, I don't think. 38:37.338 --> 38:38.520 Or it didn't work. 38:38.941 --> 38:40.123 No, it is highlighted. 38:40.564 --> 38:46.213 I have problem with my anger issues. 38:46.514 --> 38:49.860 They are very severe to where my mother has threatened to kick me out of the house. 38:50.821 --> 38:52.785 And I'm having a very hard time with memory. 38:53.205 --> 38:54.167 Can you please help me? 38:55.885 --> 39:02.593 All I can do is offer you to read my booklet on how to meditate and start to undertake meditation. 39:04.216 --> 39:05.317 It's not going to be easy. 39:05.337 --> 39:07.520 I can't guarantee that you're going to get success. 39:07.660 --> 39:13.808 But if you want to do a meditation course with me, that would be a much better way to ensure success. 39:13.888 --> 39:17.252 You can do it on the internet or even better, come here and do a course. 39:18.515 --> 39:30.073 But I would start with reading the booklet, see if it's something you can get your head around, and if so, then take the next step and start to meditate, and maybe come and do a course. 39:31.174 --> 39:33.298 The more you put into it, the more you'll get out of it. 39:33.758 --> 39:40.188 So I can't help you, you have to help yourself. 39:40.208 --> 39:43.493 It's not true I can help you, but it's help you help yourself, I guess. 39:47.557 --> 39:52.684 I can note five sense doors while it's happening, but I struggle during meditation with thinking. 39:53.586 --> 39:56.950 When I catch myself thinking, the moment I catch the thinking, it's gone. 39:57.491 --> 40:00.776 So the main object would be knowing or remembering I was thinking. 40:01.517 --> 40:05.002 So my question is, when to use thinking and when to use knowing? 40:05.623 --> 40:07.405 I wouldn't overthink it. 40:09.899 --> 40:11.000 doesn't really matter. 40:11.020 --> 40:12.722 It was thinking, so you can say thinking. 40:12.762 --> 40:14.904 You're knowing that you were thinking, so you can say knowing. 40:15.505 --> 40:16.446 It's not magic. 40:16.466 --> 40:17.767 It's just keeping you objective. 40:18.628 --> 40:23.453 You cultivate this moment of thought where you're clear about what's going on. 40:23.773 --> 40:24.213 That's all. 40:24.353 --> 40:28.017 It keeps you from all this confusion and doubt and uncertainty. 40:31.240 --> 40:32.001 Don't overthink it. 40:35.064 --> 40:39.028 During sitting meditation, the saliva in my mouth starts to build up. 40:39.262 --> 40:41.144 Is there a technique to prevent that? 40:42.105 --> 40:44.148 This way I have to swallow and note it too. 40:44.769 --> 40:47.812 It isn't bothering me, just wondered if this happens to others too. 40:48.573 --> 40:50.496 So far it didn't come up in the questions. 40:51.537 --> 40:55.962 We're not into preventing things, so if you swallow you have to say swallowing. 40:59.847 --> 41:03.852 Mahasi Sayadaw actually mentions it in his book, so it can't be that uncommon. 41:08.810 --> 41:11.654 During walking meditation, the same thoughts come and go. 41:11.674 --> 41:15.920 I stop to note them, then they go away, but after a while they come back. 41:16.662 --> 41:19.305 It's like a monkey mind I'm dealing with. 41:19.325 --> 41:22.450 So when is it okay to just ignore them and go back to walking? 41:22.730 --> 41:26.396 When walking, we tend to say you can ignore minor thoughts. 41:29.200 --> 41:32.725 You'd only really have to stop and note them. 41:33.903 --> 41:42.477 if they're really distracting, like if it's really something that you're curious about or interested in or distracted by. 41:42.517 --> 41:48.006 And again, it's not, I have no magic answer for you, and the answer I give you isn't going to magically make it better. 41:48.026 --> 41:56.159 It's about you learning about yourself, and the noting is just a means of getting your mind back on track. 41:56.179 --> 42:01.227 So it's not magic, like if I catch every thought, I get a level up, or... 42:02.455 --> 42:13.917 extra life or something it's not a game it's about learning about yourself so again don't overthink it too much there's some leeway 42:24.072 --> 42:29.842 Fonte, for seeing, one needs eye faculty, light, objects, and mind. 42:30.543 --> 42:34.149 However, many times, one sees things very clearly with eyes closed. 42:35.090 --> 42:40.079 Needed help understanding the difference, or how is the seeing within the four faculties? 42:40.439 --> 42:40.900 Thank you. 42:42.128 --> 42:44.534 It's a fairly unimportant question. 42:44.755 --> 42:47.822 Okay, it is a good question. 42:47.842 --> 42:51.371 It's probably not one I'm keen to dwell on here. 42:51.532 --> 42:51.612 Why? 42:53.035 --> 42:54.840 Because seeing is seeing, so you just say seeing. 42:54.860 --> 42:58.028 Who cares what the difference is? 42:58.143 --> 43:08.437 It's a reasonable question, but my answer is, so I'm not discarding it as unreasonable, but my answer is, who cares? 43:08.818 --> 43:09.499 It's just seeing. 43:10.180 --> 43:11.021 Seeing is just seeing. 43:11.381 --> 43:14.666 But the technical answer would be that it's called Dhamma Ramana. 43:14.686 --> 43:17.450 It's not actually Rupa Ramana. 43:17.530 --> 43:20.634 The object isn't light, isn't forms. 43:21.395 --> 43:22.517 The object is Dhamma. 43:22.537 --> 43:24.640 It's a mental object. 43:25.767 --> 43:29.052 But practically speaking, it's still just an experience of seeing. 43:30.975 --> 43:31.396 I think. 43:31.436 --> 43:33.198 I'm actually not entirely sure. 43:33.379 --> 43:36.944 But yeah, I think that's how the Abhidhamma classifies it. 43:44.135 --> 43:46.138 Hey, didn't the socialist guy have a better question? 43:46.158 --> 43:47.320 Where does good question go? 43:48.363 --> 43:49.044 Oh, I don't know. 43:49.765 --> 43:50.647 Maybe it's below now. 43:50.667 --> 43:51.688 Did you delete his good question? 43:52.610 --> 43:54.333 No, I didn't delete any questions. 43:54.393 --> 43:55.935 It might have sunk below. 43:55.975 --> 43:57.318 I only see two of them. 43:58.680 --> 44:02.466 Are there any more? 44:02.486 --> 44:04.089 Or did we already click on it as answered? 44:04.569 --> 44:05.811 Because you had a better one, I thought. 44:06.533 --> 44:07.975 These ones are not very good questions. 44:09.389 --> 44:13.335 If we lost one of your questions, please enter it back. 44:13.696 --> 44:15.499 Let's not answer this one because that'll show up. 44:16.440 --> 44:17.301 Let's just delete it. 44:17.361 --> 44:18.684 Let's answer it and then delete it. 44:20.446 --> 44:24.553 So we're not going to enable chat for YouTube because that gets toxic. 44:24.573 --> 44:24.893 Sorry. 44:27.357 --> 44:28.339 Monks can marry. 44:28.419 --> 44:29.641 No, monks can't marry. 44:30.602 --> 44:34.268 It's not really an appropriate question for this one. 44:35.530 --> 44:35.650 Sorry. 44:37.891 --> 44:39.013 I didn't see another question. 44:39.093 --> 44:40.836 Let me see if it's in chat maybe. 44:41.036 --> 44:42.559 Maybe it didn't come up. 44:42.899 --> 44:49.550 I read earlier this socialist guy had a... 44:49.570 --> 44:50.451 I don't know where it went. 44:52.174 --> 44:54.738 Maybe it's under answered. 44:54.758 --> 44:56.181 Maybe he deleted it. 44:57.122 --> 44:59.626 Maybe people are allowed to delete their own questions. 45:03.332 --> 45:03.713 Or she. 45:06.916 --> 45:08.498 All right, anyway, we're done. 45:12.104 --> 45:16.150 So that's all for this week. 45:16.170 --> 45:18.714 See you all in about a week's time. 45:19.435 --> 45:20.637 Tomorrow I go to New York. 45:20.757 --> 45:27.928 If anyone's in the New York area or that area of the world, you're welcome to stop by. 45:29.630 --> 45:32.875 I think the event is on my Facebook page. 45:32.895 --> 45:38.524 You can look up Buddhist Insights in New York on Facebook. 45:38.544 --> 45:41.229 Find the event Saturday, Sunday. 45:42.190 --> 45:44.073 I don't know if you have to RSVP or not. 45:44.354 --> 45:53.308 There is an RSVP on it, but probably not too hard of a rule. 45:53.980 --> 46:22.502 then I'll be going to stay with my father so I won't be doing broadcasting from there probably I'll still be doing interviews so if you have hopefully if internet holds up so if you have if you're doing a course with me you can still try and call me but be aware that there might be technical difficulties with that so that's all for today good night 46:23.849 --> 46:25.066 Safe travels, Panthi. 46:25.451 --> 46:25.978 Good night.