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Is it possible that nibbana after death does not exist, and even if you become enlightened, there is nothing after death?

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And if this is so, wouldn't this make living as a monk, trying to become enlightened, pointless, as when you die, your consciousness, which is in your brain, decays and is proven to not exist anymore?

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The universe and life can be eternal, no matter if you're enlightened or not.

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Wow, that's a breathful mouthful.

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Anything's possible if you haven't experienced reality.

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If you haven't come to see the truth for yourself, then yeah, anything's possible.

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It's possible that God's waiting to receive you in heaven for eternity or send you to hell for eternity.

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It's not logical, but it's just as possible as anything else before you have the facts.

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But once you have the facts from empirical observation, I mean the corollary is kind of funny because obviously I do have a view that nibana after death does exist for an arahat, not for anyone else.

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But wait, so if you become enlightened, there is nothing after death.

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I think you're misunderstanding here.

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Nibbana is not a place that you go after death.

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Nibbana does mean there is, in a sense, nothing after death because there's no more arising of that which is impermanent suffering and non-self.

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But I think you're hitting on a very important point that considering that it's nothing, there is really no point

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The only point that you can say, there is kind of a point, and the only way you can say that, we've talked about this many times before, the only way you can say there's a point to say Nibbana is that it's internally consistent.

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You want to be free from suffering and you don't suffer.

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Any other path is internally inconsistent because you want to be free from suffering and yet you're acting in such a way that brings about suffering.

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The attainment of nibbana is the only way to be logic, be internally consistent.

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Be consistent to your own desires, your own wishes, your own intentions.

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But the point is that if you're not enlightened, this doesn't happen.

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If you're not enlightened, when you die you have to come back.

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That's our view as Buddhists.

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Agree with it or don't agree with it, that's really the problem because if it weren't the case, then there wouldn't be any point to meditating.

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You just wait until you die or even commit suicide.

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There's really no point to life at all.

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That's why they say things like Buddhism are wishful thinking or religion is all wishful thinking.

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Just because you want it to be true doesn't make it true.

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That's true.

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It certainly doesn't.

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But it doesn't make it false either.

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So seeing the truth, observing objectively, is what allows you to see the truth.