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Okay, so this is

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an interview I'd like to because we're curious and I think our... something that people could benefit from in general maybe people who are curious or people who are interested or people who are preparing even to make such a step what is it that makes you

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come to this decision?

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What salient points make you come to this decision of, which is really quite a decision, that not only will you come to do meditation courses or even stay at a monastery, but to shave your head and put on robes?

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What is it that actually even interests you, or what's the benefit that you see in that?

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Because you've spent time in monasteries and meditation centers as a layperson.

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That is a very good question.

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As you told before, I've tried it out many times and I can only recommend to everybody who's thinking about it to go to many retreats.

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Think about this very deeply.

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I found myself making retreats, being very, very interested in ordaining, and then I stepped back many times.

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I found myself still thinking that out there is something that not as much to do.

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but clinging to many things and wondering if I could make it, if I could actually live this life and be happy with it.

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And I think this is one of the reasons why I want to ordain.

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As much as I try to have no expectations, because expectations usually, well,

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are not met the way you want them to.

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But you mentioned shaving your head.

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I didn't think it was a big thing, but you do notice once you do it, it is a big thing.

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And another thing is, where I find myself with a new name, my ego is somehow identified with another name, and this does create some confusion, something I have to deal with.

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I find it interesting, I find it very challenging, and I'm looking forward to whatever is coming.

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Is that what I want to say?

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I spent three months from December till February here and I thought that there was still something to do from where I come from.

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I thought I'd really enjoy going back to Berlin.

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I thought it was going to be very exciting.

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We talked about it and I found it totally uninteresting and I couldn't wait to just finally stop that worldly wanting, wanting.

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Wow.

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OK, I don't have anything else to say.