Why some people faint when they are praying with music in church?
Some told me that Holy Spirit goes into their body when they fall down.
But I find it weird.
Is it because of emotional too high or any other reason?
There's an interesting documentary called Jesus Camp that my uncle showed me when I was in Thailand that actually shows examples of six-year-old kids with the Holy Spirit shaking them up, shaking them down.
It's amazing how naive people can be, you know?
How easy it is to convince people, that's God, that's the Holy Spirit.
It's like this faith healing, people laying on hands.
Sorry, I'm going to get called out for this by making fun of other religions.
This is the religious thing.
I don't really... Maybe I shouldn't even go this far, but the point is that we can be so gullible.
I have been incredibly gullible in my day.
But that's all it is, really.
We have false attributions and associations
Even false memories of how things happened and so on.
So many things that create belief, create unsubstantiated belief.
And the best way, the way that those people who promote atheism tend to deal with this is to point out how everything you say is found elsewhere.
And so the healing that people say is because Jesus Christ gave them the power to heal.
is found in, I would say, hundreds of non-Christian circles.
How many other religions out there who claim to practice faith healing?
Reiki students do it, and they don't generally believe in Jesus Christ.
But rapture, and that's what this is called, that you're asking about, is a far more common one.
It's like bright lights.
People say, I saw a bright light, and it was the light of God.
Except when I went to Jomtong for my first meditation course, after a few days I saw bright lights.
And I wasn't Christian.
I was Taoist at the time.
Was it Jesus trying to tell me that he wants me to meditate?
And then, if you watch Jesus Camp, you'll see them go like this.
They're standing in front of the parliament buildings, protesting.
Protesting abortion, which is a good thing to protest.
I'm with them on that, actually.
Not protesting, but to be against.
I'm totally against that.
I'm with them on this one.
And the rapture comes to them.
They're shaking.
You can see them all.
It's kind of funny watching them bob their heads.
The Holy Ghost has entered their body, right?
Except my first meditation course, I went way more than they went.
I didn't writhe on the floor like little kids but that's just scary but it's all rapture and there's no way that Jesus Christ entered my body or the Holy Spirit unless he thought here's a here's a
I don't know, what did he want to tell me?
But it sure felt good.
And so I kept doing it and thought, well, this is great.
And then I went to tell my teacher and they totally demolished me and said, that's useless, that's dangerous, and so on.
Made me give it up.
It's not actually dangerous, but I can't remember what they said, but...
I tended to believe those things were dangerous.
It's not really dangerous, it's just useless.
It just gets you stuck in a circle.
Rapture is caused, what is it caused by?
Rapture is caused by concentration.
Through the practice of meditation you enter into concentrated states.
as you enter into concentrated states, you tend to do the same things repeatedly.
The same mind states tend to arise more repeatedly than an ordinary state where you're in a state of greater chaos.
So you're
it's very easy to get into a repetitious state where you cultivate the same state again and again and so it can be as simple as leaning like this and it feels good, oh that was nice and so unconsciously you find yourself doing it again and again and again and again until eventually it's very easy to get into this shaking state I could do it right now if I wanted it's not difficult
And so many meditators fall into this.
And if you take it further and further and further, it can actually cause you to convulse on the floor and all sorts of crazy things.
It's getting stuck in a rut.
It's when the mind gets into a rut.
And then sometimes it can't even get out.
It gets caught in it.
But in certain sects of Christianity, they're actually encouraged to develop it and to cultivate it.
So that's why the convulsions come and so on.
It's like these dance... It's like dancing, really.
Dancing in general.
Ordinary people dancing.
When they dance, they just start convulsing, right?
If you go to a dance, you see a lot of people with the Holy Ghost in them, because they're just shaking all over the place.
They shake into the rhythm.
They're encouraging this kind of rapturous state, because that's really what it is.
That's why dancing feels so great, because you're in the state of rapture.
Christianity has just found one other way to develop what is in the end just a silly and meaningless state.
It doesn't make them better people.
It doesn't make them wiser.
It doesn't make them more Christian.
And it certainly doesn't mean that the Holy Ghost has entered into their body.
It comes back again to the false attribution.
It happened.
That's all you can say.
You can say it was the Holy Ghost.
I can say it was Satan.
Which is funny, they actually seem to do that sometimes.
When I heal people, it's Jesus.
When you heal people, it's Satan.
Anyway, no Christian bashing.