WEBVTT 01:26.633 --> 01:27.654 Good evening everyone. 01:28.175 --> 01:31.799 Welcome to our live broadcast. 01:36.865 --> 01:39.529 Still looking at the Anguttara Nikaya Book of Forests. 01:44.775 --> 01:53.265 And there's a couple coming up that I think are worth mentioning, so there may not be all that much to talk about, but they're good. 01:54.359 --> 01:59.670 good sets of things to know as Buddhists. 01:59.690 --> 02:08.828 So the next one is Anguttara Nikaya book of fours, Sutta 31, the Chakka Sutta, on the four wheels. 02:14.019 --> 02:16.063 So we can think of Buddhism as a vehicle 02:20.650 --> 02:25.456 Buddhism is a transport, something that carries you or facilitates your journey. 02:28.079 --> 02:32.824 You might even think of it like a train, because it keeps you on track. 02:35.027 --> 02:36.628 There's no swerving in the Dhamma. 02:37.269 --> 02:39.672 There's no getting lost. 02:41.294 --> 02:49.223 You know that when you get on the Buddhist train, as long as you don't get off again, you'll make it to your destination. 02:53.860 --> 02:55.702 And in order to do that, it needs wheels. 03:01.788 --> 03:11.538 And so the Buddha identified four qualities that actually don't necessarily have anything to do with spirituality or meditation practice. 03:11.558 --> 03:18.805 The Buddha, in fact, here says that these are things that will lead to wealth, bhoga. 03:23.577 --> 03:27.043 Whether an angel or a human, they will attain greatness of wealth. 03:28.225 --> 03:46.699 But wealth is both spiritual and material, so these dhammas are useful in both spheres. 03:51.623 --> 03:58.211 The point is, I think that these don't constitute the vehicle, but they allow the vehicle to continue. 03:58.511 --> 04:05.619 They're sort of a framework for us within which we work. 04:05.639 --> 04:19.335 They don't directly, well, they don't go into detail about the practice, but they provide some sort of a framework, 04:20.868 --> 04:47.550 boundaries wheels if you will wheels to the cart so what are the four patirupa desavasu this word should be familiar for those of you who have been buddhist for a while I mean those of you who were born buddhist and have heard all the chants 04:48.847 --> 04:52.952 For those of you who have studied the metta sutta, most of these should be familiar. 04:54.133 --> 05:02.884 Patirupa desa vaso, dwelling in a suitable environment, a suitable country. 05:05.447 --> 05:12.315 Oh no, desa just means place, a suitable place. 05:12.336 --> 05:14.398 Number two, sapurisa. 05:15.543 --> 05:23.154 And here there's a variant, sapuri supa sayo, associating with good people. 05:28.281 --> 05:36.893 Or getting support, being supported or supporting. 05:42.577 --> 05:46.101 Sehwanang bhajanang narajanang. 05:52.969 --> 05:54.391 Associating with good people. 05:58.035 --> 05:58.736 Sapurisa. 06:01.680 --> 06:04.423 Number three, atasamapanidhi. 06:07.226 --> 06:09.529 Setting oneself beneath that. 06:11.382 --> 06:15.567 Setting oneself up rightly. 06:24.538 --> 06:28.502 Resolving or settling oneself in the right path. 06:33.729 --> 06:39.195 And number four, having done good deeds in the past. 06:42.230 --> 06:43.872 These four are the wheels. 06:51.400 --> 06:52.280 So, quite simple. 06:54.062 --> 06:55.143 Let's talk about these. 06:57.866 --> 07:00.489 The first one, to dwell in a suitable location. 07:00.549 --> 07:09.098 I mean, this is easily understood in regards to spiritual practice. 07:11.727 --> 07:15.352 in regards to worldly pursuits as well. 07:20.778 --> 07:29.569 Living in a place where there are good people, where there's no war or crime, famine or disease. 07:33.534 --> 07:37.920 This is also one of the, these are, most of these are, all of these are also blessings. 07:39.638 --> 07:43.143 But it's a reminder for us to find a suitable place. 07:44.805 --> 07:55.800 And the Buddha wasn't complacent in this regard about putting up with an inferior situation. 07:55.820 --> 08:06.996 I mean, there are certain places, environments that make meditation practice, spiritual practice, or worldly gain even, quite difficult. 08:14.300 --> 08:24.831 The most obvious example is people who come to a meditation center because they find they can't meditate at home. 08:24.871 --> 08:41.067 I mean there are sometimes people who just come here for the day because, especially in this area, we have a lot of students, university students, who if they were to try and meditate in their homes, 08:43.561 --> 08:45.404 and find themselves quite disturbed. 08:47.407 --> 08:51.092 Often they live in small rooms and they don't have room for walking and sitting. 08:51.112 --> 08:53.856 They just don't have a peaceful location. 08:53.916 --> 09:01.447 And moreover, they don't have the inspiration to push them to meditate. 09:01.487 --> 09:11.442 But when they come to the meditation center, they find that inspiration and they find a place to 09:13.193 --> 09:18.139 that is suitable for the cultivation of spirituality. 09:20.462 --> 09:22.925 In Buddhist countries this is of course much more pronounced. 09:22.945 --> 09:41.327 People go to forest monasteries or even city monasteries and try to do good deeds in the monastery or practice meditation in the monastery because they're so geared towards that and the environment is suitable, the environment is peaceful. 09:43.535 --> 09:45.157 environment is designed for it. 09:57.330 --> 10:06.640 But certainly there's something to be said even spiritually for the importance of dwelling in a good, having a good space. 10:08.206 --> 10:18.100 Of course once you're enlightened, I mean we often, with many of these things we often think of ourselves as, or we often think of the practice from the point of view of an enlightened being. 10:18.140 --> 10:27.953 We read about the Buddha and we think well then I have to be like him so I should just put up with whatever and even go around and meet with all sorts of different people. 10:29.300 --> 10:35.769 But the opposite should be the case for someone just beginning on the path. 10:35.789 --> 10:37.411 You should sequester yourself. 10:37.431 --> 10:38.293 Go on a retreat. 10:39.294 --> 10:42.839 Go off into the forest or find an empty room. 10:44.661 --> 10:48.427 Buddha would always say there are roots of trees. 10:48.487 --> 10:57.940 You can go and stay at the foot of a tree or there are empty spaces, empty rooms, empty huts. 10:59.202 --> 11:00.103 empty buildings. 11:05.870 --> 11:07.471 So this is on many levels. 11:07.552 --> 11:20.106 I mean, on another level, being in a country or a city or a town where there are meditators and meditation centers and Buddhists and that kind of thing is, of course, a great benefit. 11:20.126 --> 11:28.956 Traveling all the way to Asia can be a great thing if you go to a country where there is Buddhism and learn Buddhist culture and Buddhist tradition and Buddhist practice. 11:30.455 --> 11:40.670 Buddhist practice is still much easier to do, to undertake in a country, in a place where it's valued and appreciated and supported. 11:45.858 --> 11:46.619 So that's number one. 11:48.882 --> 11:55.332 Number two, sab puri savasaya, or upasayo, upasaya. 11:59.193 --> 12:01.316 associating with good people. 12:02.938 --> 12:13.791 If you surround yourself with ordinary people, your ability to cultivate spirituality is, of course, restricted. 12:14.872 --> 12:22.181 It's restricted by the pull that these people have on you, the involvement that they require. 12:23.182 --> 12:28.288 It's restricted by the drag they have on your own spirituality with their 12:30.412 --> 12:43.693 Behaviors and attitudes and emotions and problems, difficulties, stresses and immorality. 12:44.995 --> 12:57.094 So if you're surrounded by people who are drinking and stealing and killing and lying and cheating, it's quite a drag on your own spiritual and even emotional and mental well-being. 13:03.858 --> 13:11.290 In a meditation center, this is one of the great powers of a meditation center is that you're surrounded by people who are meditating. 13:11.311 --> 13:12.312 You're not alone anymore. 13:13.815 --> 13:23.892 You've left behind all of that rubbish of defilement and addiction and conflict and stress and suffering. 13:26.436 --> 13:28.279 And everywhere you look there's someone meditating. 13:30.352 --> 13:38.466 talking about meditation, teaching meditation, pictures of the Buddha on the wall, Buddha images on your shelves. 13:44.376 --> 13:52.950 All right, specifically, so that's actually both of these, the greatness of the center, but also the greatness of being surrounded by good people. 13:56.086 --> 13:58.909 If you can, going to a meditation center is a great thing. 13:59.149 --> 14:00.851 It's a great support for your practice. 14:00.871 --> 14:03.214 You're not surprising how great it is. 14:03.234 --> 14:04.395 It's much more than you would think. 14:05.116 --> 14:11.063 The psychological value of being around people, just a reminder alone. 14:12.525 --> 14:18.972 But the great help that people give in a meditation center, we don't realize how much good we're doing for each other. 14:20.656 --> 14:24.481 Because you think, well, I'm not actually doing anything for the other people, I'm leaving them alone. 14:24.941 --> 14:25.763 But that's the key. 14:26.644 --> 14:27.525 You're leaving them alone. 14:30.489 --> 14:32.952 How rare it is to find someone who leaves you alone. 14:33.813 --> 14:43.305 Someone who doesn't pull at you and make claim to your time and your energy. 14:45.108 --> 14:55.139 and drag you around, drag you down, drag you into their problems and their issues. 14:57.662 --> 15:01.767 The greatest friend, I think, is someone who leaves you alone. 15:01.787 --> 15:13.900 The greatest friend is someone who gives you the time, the place, the space, and the support, the encouragement to do what needs to be done. 15:15.685 --> 15:29.406 So just the greatness that all the meditators leave each other alone and don't sit around chatting with each other, that's the worst, is when you go to a meditation center and the meditators are just sitting around chatting all day, dragging each other down. 15:30.327 --> 15:36.617 Clearly they've found people who are not good to associate with, and they're dragging each other down. 15:38.580 --> 15:43.988 But when you find a group of people who are dedicated, like if you look at these guys here, 15:46.988 --> 15:47.709 in this picture. 15:49.912 --> 15:51.535 We have four meditators right now. 15:51.775 --> 15:55.280 One of them doesn't come up for the talks, which is fine. 15:55.300 --> 15:59.025 I'm assuming he knows about them, but maybe he doesn't. 16:01.329 --> 16:02.490 But we're at maximum. 16:02.570 --> 16:05.054 We're at capacity, I think, for the first time, actually. 16:05.935 --> 16:10.642 We have four meditators all trying to finish a full meditation course. 16:10.742 --> 16:12.485 None of these guys are here even part time. 16:12.505 --> 16:15.409 They're all here for the full course. 16:17.954 --> 16:18.835 which is great to see. 16:20.418 --> 16:24.043 When you have this, there's great power that comes from this. 16:24.063 --> 16:28.289 There's a great support. 16:28.309 --> 16:46.375 Now, barring that, in the world, I think you could even say it becomes more important with all the, all the pulls on our mind that exist in the world, all the, 16:48.430 --> 17:03.638 stimulus, stimuli out there, all the many different types of people, having good friends, good association, having good people around you is even more important. 17:05.845 --> 17:27.932 as it's easy to get swept away or at the very least burnt out by the constant stress and bombardment of being surrounded by people who are not on the spiritual path, especially for a beginner, someone who hasn't ever taken the time to go all the way with their spiritual practice. 17:28.994 --> 17:30.115 It's easy to be overwhelmed. 17:34.195 --> 17:37.000 even for those who haven't committed to the spiritual practice. 17:37.460 --> 17:48.418 Being surrounded by people who are spiritually inclined is, of course, one of the great reasons why people take up spirituality, because they see other people and they're given an example. 17:50.902 --> 17:55.950 They're given the idea, the inspiration to cultivate good things. 17:57.994 --> 17:59.376 Anyway, that's number... 18:03.338 --> 18:04.139 It's only number two. 18:05.381 --> 18:08.305 Number three, setting yourself in the right path. 18:09.566 --> 18:10.548 And this is the practice. 18:11.269 --> 18:16.015 This is a part of the, this is the third wheel. 18:19.200 --> 18:20.501 This is really the defining. 18:22.304 --> 18:24.487 I think this is probably the most important. 18:24.687 --> 18:26.029 I mean, it's really the heart of the matter. 18:27.711 --> 18:32.738 So we're talking about getting results and becoming great, attaining greatness. 18:33.832 --> 18:38.478 It doesn't mean greatness as other people look at you, but actual greatness of mind. 18:38.919 --> 18:42.884 You want to be, this is what we want to be, great. 18:42.904 --> 18:44.306 We want to better ourselves. 18:45.227 --> 18:46.709 We want better things. 18:47.150 --> 18:48.291 We want a better state. 18:48.772 --> 18:51.656 Greatness is, I think, desirable. 18:51.776 --> 19:00.227 I think worth considering as a goal, or part of the goal anyway, or part of the process. 19:01.928 --> 19:13.745 I think we maybe underestimate the greatness of a meditator because by greatness we don't of course mean someone who is rich or famous or powerful. 19:14.706 --> 19:23.419 We mean someone who is rich spiritually, powerful in their own mind, able to overcome suffering. 19:25.462 --> 19:30.349 There's greatness in someone who sits alone in the forest or alone in their room 19:31.662 --> 19:33.946 There's greatness in someone who can be mindful. 19:35.389 --> 19:37.292 There's greatness in someone who is subjective. 19:37.853 --> 19:48.692 When confronted with pleasant and unpleasant stimuli, they don't falter, they don't waver, they don't chase after their own tail, really. 19:54.190 --> 20:02.439 So this is the key to greatness, all four of these are, but this one especially, setting yourself on the right path, settling yourself, establishing yourself. 20:04.201 --> 20:08.285 Don't try and succeed or try and, don't think about peace or happiness. 20:08.946 --> 20:18.156 Don't think about gain, praise, fame, happiness in general. 20:19.486 --> 20:45.747 until you've settled yourself on the right path because all of that can be perverted if you're not on the right path you can have great happiness and if you're on the wrong path it will all fall apart even lead you astray and lead you to addiction and that kind of thing fame of course fame that is undeserved fame for a person who is impure is a very dangerous thing if they're not on the right path you can become very famous 20:47.448 --> 20:49.550 and it can destroy you inside. 20:54.755 --> 21:06.386 Riches, praise, all of these things, all the good things in life pale in comparison to setting yourself on the right path. 21:06.406 --> 21:16.476 So what this means is establishing an understanding about our experiences that is wholesome and pure. 21:17.873 --> 21:25.080 Because who we are is very much our habits of behavior, habits of interaction with the world, right? 21:25.101 --> 21:36.733 When someone confronts us with a pleasant or unpleasant speech, how we react to it. 21:37.333 --> 21:41.598 When the world presents us with pleasant or unpleasant stimuli, how we react to them. 21:44.521 --> 21:45.822 It's very much who we are. 21:48.755 --> 21:53.582 If we're not settled on the right path, we react unfavorably. 21:54.483 --> 22:04.216 We create suffering for ourselves. 22:05.458 --> 22:14.070 So to be pure, clear, I mean these are the best words I think to use for what we're looking for. 22:15.603 --> 22:40.362 You can only explain this so well, but I think those are the best words, because that's the sense that one should have, is that the mind is pure, the mind is clear, the mind is honest and true to itself, not crooked, not clinging, not judging, not identifying with the experience, but 22:44.510 --> 22:52.042 relating to experience, relating to reality in a way that leads only to one's own benefit and the benefit of others. 22:52.402 --> 22:55.327 That doesn't lead to one's detriment or the detriment of others. 22:57.390 --> 23:01.396 That is what it means to be on the right path. 23:01.416 --> 23:03.600 And that's what we strive for in meditation. 23:03.640 --> 23:05.322 We're just looking to find that. 23:06.544 --> 23:08.307 This is why we try not to 23:09.670 --> 23:15.320 add any value judgments to the practice or statements about belief. 23:18.106 --> 23:20.470 We don't add color or flavor to the practice. 23:22.374 --> 23:25.840 We want to make it very, very much about what actually 23:27.963 --> 23:38.178 presents itself through experience, through reality, rather than having any kind of idea about how things should be, what is good, what is bad. 23:39.480 --> 23:50.897 We want to rather look and see, so that we can see for ourselves what does lead to our benefit and what does lead to our detriment. 23:51.759 --> 23:53.081 And the same with others. 23:54.062 --> 23:55.224 What is good and what is bad? 23:55.825 --> 23:57.447 The claim is that you can actually see that. 23:58.895 --> 24:27.062 It's something that I think many people don't realize, that if you look and if you find the proper way of looking objectively, not just looking without finding a good way, but if you find a way to look at things objectively, you will start to see objectively what is good and what is bad, without anyone having to tell you or having to believe anyone, without being afraid that you're being brainwashed or indoctrinated. 24:30.097 --> 25:00.103 the right path and number four number four is a really good one i think it's one that it's really quite clever and perhaps surprising means having done good deeds in the past one of the most important qualities of a person to allow them to succeed and and prosper progress spiritually even materially is something that they have no control over because they have to have done it already 25:02.530 --> 25:05.655 But it's true, doing good deeds often sets you back. 25:05.815 --> 25:09.962 It's often difficult, trying, taxing. 25:12.286 --> 25:13.688 It can be unpleasant at times. 25:15.171 --> 25:25.247 Not exactly, but it can involve some unpleasantness as your mind revolts, as you have to deal with adversity that your mind doesn't like. 25:29.969 --> 25:39.320 But the great benefit of having done good deeds, anyone who has done lots of good things can tell you how much good it brings to them, how heartening it is. 25:41.322 --> 25:42.624 And that's how supportive it is. 25:43.405 --> 25:51.134 It's supportive materially in terms of how people look at you and in terms of how the universe works for you. 25:52.636 --> 25:59.824 If you've done things that are actually good, the definition of good things is those things that bring good results. 26:00.783 --> 26:07.495 The idea is that there are things of that sort that you can depend upon to bring you good results. 26:10.521 --> 26:12.965 And those good results are both material and spiritual. 26:14.748 --> 26:17.132 Any meditator has real difficulty practicing. 26:17.193 --> 26:18.555 Listen up, because most of us do. 26:19.852 --> 26:24.139 It's usually because we've neglected to do great good deeds in the past. 26:24.860 --> 26:26.062 There's nothing you can do about that. 26:26.503 --> 26:28.226 It's not something you should despair about. 26:28.666 --> 26:33.434 It's something you should chastise yourself, certainly, and say, boy, I've been negligent. 26:34.396 --> 26:37.000 It's a great part of the practice because it's a lesson. 26:38.482 --> 26:44.431 People who meditate tend to become very much inclined towards good deeds, which is really awesome. 26:44.491 --> 26:49.418 If you see this community that we've set up, there's people volunteering for all sorts of things, helping out. 26:50.380 --> 26:52.042 Just a real wholesomeness. 26:53.304 --> 26:54.666 And no one's getting paid. 26:55.227 --> 26:56.068 I'm not getting paid. 26:56.108 --> 26:57.250 Robin's not getting paid. 26:59.018 --> 27:06.129 And the people who made this website, how much money it would have cost us to make this website, they're doing it all completely free. 27:07.691 --> 27:10.095 This is the sort of thing that comes from meditation. 27:10.315 --> 27:18.428 I mean, it comes from other things as well, and many of the people here haven't done a significant amount of meditation such that we could claim that that's where it comes from, but 27:20.399 --> 27:35.141 Certainly anyone who has done a significant amount of meditation becomes very much inclined towards good deeds because through the meditation it really punishes you for not having done good deeds. 27:36.483 --> 27:41.631 It's not something you should obsess over or worry about, oh this means I'm a bad person because I'm suffering. 27:42.708 --> 27:46.653 Probably does, to some extent, but we're all kind of in that boat. 27:47.474 --> 27:57.228 We've done a lot of bad things and tortured ourselves and tortured others, and it set us in this kind of desperate state where we have to deal with it now. 27:59.551 --> 28:07.662 It's a good reminder, because if you go to a Buddhist country, you'll meet many people who come to meditate and have very little difficulty with it. 28:07.682 --> 28:08.563 It's impressive, really. 28:10.130 --> 28:13.294 something you have to respect very much. 28:15.678 --> 28:30.018 You know, often Westerners go to these countries and see these people obsessing over doing good deeds, obsessing over charity, morality, even ritual and all that kind of thing, chanting and so on. 28:30.038 --> 28:35.025 And they think, ah, these people don't get it, they're just doing all these inferior acts. 28:35.826 --> 28:36.367 That's true. 28:36.427 --> 28:39.411 I mean, you have to admit that they are inferior, but 28:40.910 --> 28:43.576 Boy, are they a great support for that which is superior. 28:44.658 --> 29:00.471 And those very people, many of them, do go to meditation centers and have a lot easier time of it than many Westerners who come and have never done much good for other people or much really high-minded things. 29:01.177 --> 29:04.022 Of course, it's not a dichotomy like that. 29:04.062 --> 29:13.578 There are many Westerners or non-Buddhist people who have done lots of good deeds and thereby benefit from it in the meditation. 29:13.618 --> 29:14.339 But that's the point. 29:16.623 --> 29:19.548 Is that materially or spiritually? 29:21.131 --> 29:24.096 You're very much supported by the good deeds that you've done in the past. 29:26.962 --> 29:27.823 It's not a quick thing. 29:27.843 --> 29:31.510 It's not you can say, okay, well, I better start doing good deeds and then wait for the benefit. 29:32.291 --> 29:33.673 It's very much about the past. 29:33.954 --> 29:34.795 You have to have done them. 29:35.436 --> 29:40.245 It's a very curious, in a good way, it's a good turn of phrase. 29:44.372 --> 29:46.455 Reminding us, reminding us that, uh-oh. 29:47.768 --> 29:49.370 And did I do good deeds in the past? 29:49.430 --> 29:50.372 And shoot. 29:51.393 --> 29:54.458 It's kind of like, it makes you, gives you a feeling of being an investor, right? 29:55.339 --> 30:00.467 It's not because, you know, when you invest money, oh, all the money, I can't spend any of that money. 30:00.527 --> 30:01.688 It's like throwing money away. 30:01.708 --> 30:06.656 Okay, you said there was actually one man recently who wanted to come meditate. 30:06.736 --> 30:14.367 And I think because of the server problem and losing his application, 30:15.848 --> 30:20.414 he ended up investing his money and now he's not able to come because he has no money, he can't access it. 30:22.517 --> 30:25.942 Doing good deeds is kind of like an investment like that, to some extent. 30:27.745 --> 30:32.431 I mean, it really should eventually feel very much, very happy about doing good deeds. 30:33.853 --> 30:38.900 Which is why this whole group and community really makes me and I think makes all of us very happy. 30:39.982 --> 30:41.704 The goodness we can share by 30:43.000 --> 30:49.810 helping out and supporting the center and the website and the community. 30:51.172 --> 30:56.240 It really makes us feel very happy, I think, as a group. 30:56.620 --> 31:01.848 And that kind of happiness is a real, that's the happiness that's a real support for the practice. 31:01.868 --> 31:05.253 Not all happiness is, but that kind of happiness is very much a support. 31:06.435 --> 31:08.518 It's called unadulterated happiness. 31:09.494 --> 31:11.276 because it's awesome. 31:12.417 --> 31:19.765 It's happy about doing good deeds, happy about good things, happy about that which is worth being happy about. 31:22.888 --> 31:23.969 So that's number four. 31:24.089 --> 31:28.874 These are the four wheels, another good set of things to learn. 31:28.934 --> 31:33.919 And again, the Buddha related this to worldly practice. 31:33.939 --> 31:39.265 So if you want to get rich, if you want to be wealthy, if you want to be well off in the world, 31:41.017 --> 31:45.043 And he puts it not just as a human, but as an angel. 31:45.104 --> 31:56.482 So if you want to be great, if you aspire to greatness, even in a worldly sense, these four are your wheels. 31:57.003 --> 31:58.986 They're the vehicle that takes you there. 32:01.610 --> 32:07.159 And they're also something that we have to memorize for the first level Dhamma studies, so that's why I recognize them. 32:09.097 --> 32:11.882 That's all for the Dhamma for tonight. 32:20.697 --> 32:22.480 These guys are really tortured every evening. 32:22.500 --> 32:23.161 They have to come up. 32:23.181 --> 32:23.922 Well, they don't have to. 32:23.983 --> 32:27.228 They don't actually have to come up. 32:27.749 --> 32:32.978 It attests to their spirit that they're willing to sit still for half an hour like that. 32:41.834 --> 32:46.080 Can you clarify something that you said? 32:47.022 --> 32:48.223 What did I say? 32:48.243 --> 32:52.249 The person, the potential meditator who couldn't come because he invested all his money. 32:53.811 --> 32:55.173 I mean, what did you mean? 32:55.193 --> 32:58.618 He didn't have money to travel because it doesn't cost money to go to the center. 33:01.222 --> 33:01.623 I don't know. 33:02.464 --> 33:05.628 I think that's what he was saying is that he didn't have money for travel. 33:07.792 --> 33:07.892 Okay. 33:09.434 --> 33:11.537 Just to clarify, charging anything 33:13.795 --> 33:19.220 Right, I didn't mean to... Yeah, some meditation centers, they charge a lot. 33:20.021 --> 33:21.022 Yeah, yeah, that's true. 33:21.042 --> 33:22.804 Well, I hope he didn't... That's a good question. 33:22.844 --> 33:26.988 I wonder if he actually misunderstood that he would have to donate something. 33:27.028 --> 33:32.894 Sometimes people think, okay, it's by donation, but certainly if I go, I have to... Maybe I should remind him of that. 33:33.475 --> 33:34.155 That's a good point. 33:34.836 --> 33:40.762 Yeah, maybe he felt obligated and... Or not remind him, but clarify that for him. 33:42.604 --> 33:43.785 That might be good. 33:48.575 --> 33:57.769 I think he wanted to stay for a long time, and it looks like he wanted to drive for a long time, which may mean he'd need to have expenses or something. 34:00.313 --> 34:02.377 That could be. 34:02.417 --> 34:08.526 Maybe because he wouldn't be working for so long while he was at the center. 34:08.546 --> 34:09.408 Yeah. 34:09.428 --> 34:09.748 Anyway. 34:11.571 --> 34:12.793 Maybe I'll write back to him. 34:15.217 --> 34:15.898 OK, I'm ready. 34:18.275 --> 34:28.707 living in seclusion from other people become an aversion to other people? 34:28.727 --> 34:29.948 Did you read the second part? 34:30.008 --> 34:34.613 He reposted it in the questions. 34:35.815 --> 34:39.279 I often wonder if I should make myself maintain friendships that I don't want. 34:39.379 --> 34:40.180 Oh, just a second. 34:40.220 --> 34:41.401 I missed something. 34:44.244 --> 34:44.805 Yeah. 34:50.894 --> 34:53.016 Sorry, I was looking on the first page. 35:08.253 --> 35:08.793 Test. 35:11.196 --> 35:16.041 I'm just trying to get your audio on. 35:16.502 --> 35:17.282 Okay, it's there. 35:17.302 --> 35:17.863 It should be fine. 35:21.151 --> 35:26.379 Right, so he says, I often wonder if I should make myself maintain friendships that I don't want. 35:29.244 --> 35:29.605 Test. 35:29.745 --> 35:36.035 Okay. 35:44.108 --> 35:45.370 Right, so I have to answer this, right? 36:02.545 --> 36:08.899 I mean, I think to some extent there's something that almost appears to be aversion to other people. 36:10.362 --> 36:17.517 But, you know, it's approaching aversion, you know, because, you see, 36:18.560 --> 36:26.353 An enlightened being doesn't just do whatever, doesn't just go with the flow all the time, because they're wise. 36:27.094 --> 36:30.600 They go with the flow, but they don't go with the flow of the world. 36:31.642 --> 36:34.206 They go with the flow of their wisdom. 36:35.654 --> 36:40.581 And the flow of their wisdom often tells them to stay away from certain people. 36:41.142 --> 36:44.427 It sounds like you're avoiding them or you have aversion towards them. 36:45.388 --> 36:51.758 But this is the point that I think Buddhists often miss is that it's okay to follow your wisdom. 36:51.798 --> 37:00.531 It's okay to at times make decisions and say, hey, there's no benefit from being around these people. 37:01.709 --> 37:03.852 The problem is, most of the time it's aversion. 37:04.433 --> 37:13.427 If you're not enlightened yet, most of your decisions to avoid situations are going to be based on aversion. 37:15.290 --> 37:20.278 It would look something kind of like this. 37:20.378 --> 37:28.290 An Arahant would be very clear about how they were going to live their life, and they wouldn't let anyone dictate 37:29.519 --> 37:41.539 that but on the other hand they wouldn't push people away which you would feel as an aversion. 37:43.342 --> 37:49.772 So if someone came to the arahant who would be say living off in the forest or living in 37:51.288 --> 38:00.377 let's say living in a monastery at least, someplace that was a spiritual place, whether it be in a city, in a town, in the country, or in the forest, on a mountain, wherever. 38:02.559 --> 38:03.160 They would live there. 38:03.200 --> 38:05.222 They would live in a place that was spiritual. 38:06.844 --> 38:13.190 And they would have their space, if they could physically. 38:13.230 --> 38:19.877 They would be inclined, or they would be disinclined to 38:20.701 --> 38:41.916 have a communal living space and what i mean by that is they wouldn't incline towards if it was all that was available they would take it and they would be fine with it but they wouldn't look for community so most likely they would have their own room let's say at the very least and 38:43.482 --> 38:50.433 But if people came to the monastery, they would involve themselves with it. 38:50.453 --> 38:55.562 I mean, this is kind of the idea of an arahant, someone who is enlightened, someone who is already there. 38:58.146 --> 39:05.558 For your situation, or my situation, or a situation of someone who is on the path, 39:11.377 --> 39:18.184 It's a matter of sort of touch and go, or feeling your way out in the situation. 39:19.446 --> 39:30.057 Is this person, is it beneficial for us to get involved with each other, to have a relationship? 39:31.159 --> 39:32.600 Is there good that can come from this? 39:33.081 --> 39:36.785 Is this a support for our spiritual path, for mine and theirs? 39:38.106 --> 39:39.848 Is this something that is beneficial? 39:42.967 --> 39:46.771 Or is our relationship just going to cause suffering for both of us? 39:49.113 --> 39:59.603 And then conversely, if I leave now or go back to doing what I was doing, is that going to cause stress and suffering, right? 39:59.683 --> 40:09.413 Is there some sort of, does this person have some sort of desire for me, wants and needs from me that I may 40:10.692 --> 40:12.916 be best to address. 40:14.598 --> 40:27.239 Or not address, but address in the sense of do something in regards to, not fix, not satiate their desires necessarily, but do they want me to teach them something? 40:27.660 --> 40:28.802 Well, then teach them something. 40:30.048 --> 40:31.691 present them with the opportunity. 40:31.711 --> 40:33.295 I mean, for me, I'll give you an example. 40:34.998 --> 40:43.956 Often people will come to me and they want to talk or they want to, I've had people who want to ask me all sorts of questions about all sorts of different things and 40:45.202 --> 40:53.823 I tend to do my best to steer the conversation towards meditation and make it clear to them, look, what I do is teach meditation. 40:53.843 --> 40:56.048 If you want to come and do a course, you're welcome to. 40:56.610 --> 41:00.158 So I leave the door open, but I don't stand there in the door talking to them. 41:00.178 --> 41:03.025 The door is open, you can come in if you want, metaphorically. 41:05.047 --> 41:06.810 And then I go back to doing my own thing, right? 41:07.010 --> 41:07.771 But the door is open. 41:08.492 --> 41:14.321 And if they come to me and meditate, I will do the best I can to lead them through meditation. 41:14.502 --> 41:17.066 To me that seems like the right attitude. 41:17.146 --> 41:21.132 I don't buy into or play the game of 41:22.462 --> 41:51.574 being there for everyone no matter what they ask because it's not usually beneficial it's just running around in circles if you want to talk a lot if you want to question and think and ponder i'm kind of over that personally so maybe i hope that helps what do you guys think of the new question 41:52.769 --> 42:01.278 It's kind of weird having the chat somewhere else because now we have to click back and forth if we want to actually talk to each other, but I don't really mind. 42:02.960 --> 42:09.327 It's nice to have this question with the thumbs up. 42:09.347 --> 42:09.607 It is. 42:11.149 --> 42:17.376 What object can we meditate on to stop ourselves from falling into despair of another's terminal illness? 42:19.820 --> 42:26.335 As with any despair or stress, satipatthana is the way to go. 42:26.355 --> 42:35.095 No, samatikamaya. 42:36.762 --> 42:38.886 Soka Parideva Dukkha Domina Subhaya. 42:39.407 --> 42:39.968 No, what is it? 42:40.589 --> 42:43.033 Soka Parideva Nang Samadhi Kamaya. 42:43.074 --> 42:45.919 That's the Satipatthana Sutta. 42:45.939 --> 42:50.427 The four Satipatthana are the way to overcome Soka Parideva. 42:50.688 --> 42:55.957 Sadness and despair and lamentation and all that stuff. 42:55.977 --> 42:58.602 Soka Parideva Nang Samadhi Kamaya. 43:02.446 --> 43:10.976 Because for Satipaṭṭhāna, focus you on what's real and the terminal illness is not really real. 43:11.436 --> 43:18.044 Reality is just experience and the thoughts and the sights and the sounds. 43:19.746 --> 43:23.109 People aren't even real. 43:23.129 --> 43:24.471 What we are, I mean, 43:25.767 --> 43:29.329 We're real, but that real is not real. 43:29.912 --> 43:32.689 It's not a part of reality. 43:33.732 --> 43:36.175 Like if you look at me, okay, if you say, I'm real. 43:36.535 --> 43:39.619 This person, this being is real. 43:39.679 --> 43:44.986 It's real in the sense that I'm not just going to fall apart or fly. 43:45.026 --> 43:46.668 It's not just chance. 43:46.868 --> 43:47.709 There's something here. 43:48.610 --> 43:49.931 But that something is not a thing. 43:50.893 --> 43:52.254 It's only seeing and hearing. 43:52.274 --> 43:55.859 You see me sometimes, hear me, smelling, tasting, feeling, thinking. 43:57.501 --> 44:00.364 Not all of those usually, but some of them. 44:02.217 --> 44:03.760 And those are just experiences. 44:04.301 --> 44:06.525 And even my own experience. 44:06.706 --> 44:07.307 It's not me. 44:07.407 --> 44:08.128 It's not an I. 44:08.168 --> 44:09.250 It's just experiences. 44:11.154 --> 44:17.286 So if you can get into that mode, then this person who has the terminal illness, you're able to see what's really going on. 44:17.346 --> 44:24.900 Your relationship with them, how you relate to their experiences, how you relate to your experiences surrounding them. 44:26.348 --> 44:27.510 You're able to purify it. 44:28.792 --> 44:33.981 And this kind of upset is distress, is just an impurity of mind. 44:34.162 --> 44:35.083 It's not beneficial. 44:35.985 --> 44:36.486 It's not good. 44:38.749 --> 44:45.541 But we get caught up in it and we get attached to it and somehow have the subtle inclination that it's somehow good for us. 44:45.681 --> 44:48.306 And so we incline in that way. 44:57.702 --> 45:01.426 But should the protective meditations be practiced while walking? 45:02.267 --> 45:08.154 Sometimes when the mind is distracted while walking, I'll think, may so and so be happy, healthy, and safe from harm. 45:09.015 --> 45:19.947 Or death will occur, the faculty of life will be interrupted, and continue to walk until the mind settles down a bit, then go back to noting, stepping, right, stepping, stopping, etc. 45:22.863 --> 45:30.833 It's generally recommended to stop and do standing meditation because walking requires your mind, right? 45:30.853 --> 45:33.257 Walking requires some mental input usually. 45:34.218 --> 45:36.000 So it's recommended to stop. 45:36.361 --> 45:36.801 You can. 45:36.841 --> 45:43.830 There is a sense that there is walking and talking or walking and this or that. 45:45.613 --> 45:50.359 But standing is much more recommended because then you don't have to go back and forth. 45:50.379 --> 45:52.802 Standing doesn't take nearly as much mental activity. 45:54.571 --> 45:56.774 So you're much better able to focus on those things. 46:10.374 --> 46:23.312 Pante, regarding Satipatthana, what is the exact meaning of the phrase, the one-way path, or the path leading towards one's destination, or the one and only path? 46:26.887 --> 46:30.091 You should read Soma Tera's The Way of Mindfulness. 46:30.171 --> 46:35.337 I'm sure it's, actually I don't know if it's in Sinhalese, but read the English version. 46:35.377 --> 46:36.098 It's on the internet. 46:36.158 --> 46:39.622 Everyone here should read The Way of Mindfulness, or at least read some of it. 46:41.364 --> 46:42.886 And you'll get an answer to your question. 46:47.211 --> 46:52.798 You won't get an answer actually, but you'll see that all of those are valid interpretations. 46:52.818 --> 46:54.480 What the Buddha actually meant by it, 46:57.464 --> 47:05.901 I still get the sense that he intended it to mean that it's the one way. 47:05.942 --> 47:14.359 Maybe he wasn't being quite so exclusive about it, but he wanted to say this is the way. 47:16.786 --> 47:30.461 This is, and maybe, you know, because it's not the Eightfold Noble Path exactly, but he was trying to point out that this is the, in my mind he was trying to point out that this is the key to the path, or this is the entrance to the path. 47:30.481 --> 47:33.464 This is how you begin to practice the Eightfold Noble Path. 47:34.365 --> 47:39.351 It's the clear, you know, the way to the way kind of thing. 47:42.149 --> 47:47.036 But literally it does just mean a path that goes in one direction. 47:50.120 --> 47:50.781 Eka ayana. 47:50.962 --> 47:51.903 Ayana means going. 47:52.304 --> 47:53.545 Eka means one. 47:54.346 --> 47:55.648 So it's the one going way. 47:56.630 --> 47:58.132 It's a way that is only one going. 47:59.454 --> 48:05.963 But going here probably means it's only going in one direction or it's 48:08.896 --> 48:09.917 It's ambiguous, actually. 48:10.258 --> 48:18.108 So look at, read Sombatera's translation of the commentary in that book, The Way of Mindfulness. 48:18.308 --> 48:20.010 Excellent, excellent translation. 48:21.191 --> 48:33.587 I mean, I don't, I'm assuming, I haven't really compared it to the Pali, but as far as the commentary goes, but excellent that we have the translation, and he did a great service by translating that. 48:37.988 --> 48:52.249 I started meditating two months ago following Mahasi's method of anapanasati with the belly plus labeling distractions, which appears to be very similar to your method, and am interested in going on retreat in the future. 48:52.950 --> 48:58.298 The only thing physically or financially accessible to me is a goenka ten-day vipassana retreat. 48:59.259 --> 49:07.371 Could going on a goenka retreat lead my practice astray by confusing my current method, or might I be better off sampling a different style? 49:09.578 --> 49:11.221 I mean meditation is good for you. 49:11.241 --> 49:21.819 I'm not really impressed by the whole going to thing but I mean that only means in comparison to what we do. 49:22.200 --> 49:24.263 I tend to favor what we do but 49:25.627 --> 49:48.613 in in terms of you know a good thing to do meditation is always good even samatha is good so i wouldn't worry too much about it i mean one of the things i criticize about the goenka thing is it's a bit of a cult that's not a bit of a cult it has cultish elements to it and that can be problematic because there's nothing to do with the meditation but it becomes very much a 49:49.943 --> 50:12.390 kind of weird feeling that you get i don't know i would i've never been on the course so i actually don't know but it's the sense i get and what i've heard i mean it seems good i would think it's good they don't do any walking meditation so that's unfortunate but i don't know i mean i can't recommend it to you 50:13.788 --> 50:16.353 I did a video a while ago that said, I don't recommend Goenka. 50:16.994 --> 50:21.582 But, you know, it was willfully misunderstood as meaning, no, don't go, it's a bad thing. 50:21.622 --> 50:23.947 What I meant is, I can't recommend it, literally. 50:24.247 --> 50:32.622 Because if I recommend it, I'd be recommending something that I don't practice and that I don't know much about or believe in, you know. 50:32.642 --> 50:34.125 How could I recommend anything like that? 50:40.045 --> 50:44.432 So I would only really recommend our tradition because that's all I really know. 50:49.740 --> 50:57.092 I'm just going to stick my own two cents in there about you did mention the only thing that you're financially able, physically or financially able to. 50:57.733 --> 51:01.218 And again, when Bhante teaches meditation, there's no cost for that. 51:01.599 --> 51:04.744 And although it's in Canada, it's just a little bit above Buffalo, New York. 51:04.824 --> 51:07.909 So it kind of sounds like it's farther than it is, but... 51:08.547 --> 51:14.819 If you can make it to Buffalo, New York, you can make it to where Sri Mangala International Meditation Center is. 51:14.839 --> 51:18.285 It's not far from there at all. 51:18.305 --> 51:24.316 I have seen another tradition, supposedly enlightened masters being accused of several crimes like sexual harassment. 51:24.917 --> 51:26.480 Does this mean they were not enlightened? 51:26.500 --> 51:27.302 Thank you. 51:30.868 --> 51:31.770 Sorry, repeat again? 51:34.113 --> 51:40.520 Other traditions supposedly enlightened masters being accused of several crimes like sexual harassment. 51:40.540 --> 51:42.462 Does this mean they were not enlightened? 51:42.482 --> 51:43.303 Thank you. 51:43.323 --> 51:45.405 Yes, that means they were not enlightened. 51:45.425 --> 51:47.207 Well, no, being accused doesn't mean that. 51:47.548 --> 51:50.130 Sorry, being accused doesn't mean that at all. 51:50.150 --> 51:52.753 Having done it means they were not enlightened. 51:53.975 --> 51:56.197 Obviously, being accused of something doesn't mean anything. 51:57.038 --> 51:59.901 People accuse the Buddha of sexual harassment, sexual assault. 52:01.771 --> 52:04.794 Not sexual assault, actually, just sexual activity. 52:06.256 --> 52:11.841 I don't think anyone accused him of rape or anything, but accused him of getting a woman pregnant. 52:14.264 --> 52:14.904 Well, he did. 52:14.924 --> 52:16.246 He had a son. 52:16.266 --> 52:20.970 Oh, no, I mean as a Buddha, as a monk. 52:20.991 --> 52:25.335 Chinchamanika, Chinchamana. 52:25.355 --> 52:26.636 It's one of the Dhammapada stories. 52:26.656 --> 52:30.360 I think it's a Dhammapada story, and we haven't gotten to it yet. 52:32.450 --> 52:42.173 Bhavika, you said Satipaṭṭhāna is not exactly the equal noble path, but isn't it what 52:43.942 --> 52:47.305 Oh, yeah, I just meant that it's only one of the Eightfold Noble Paths. 52:47.325 --> 52:51.369 So if you say the Satipatthana is the Eightfold Noble Path, well, it's not. 52:51.389 --> 52:52.830 It's only one of the eight factors. 52:53.291 --> 53:05.422 But it kind of is, and that's, I think, why it's not actually saying this is the only way, because the only way is the Eightfold Noble Path. 53:05.502 --> 53:10.287 The Buddha said, This is the path there is no other. 53:10.267 --> 53:16.976 Of course, people also interpret that differently as meaning not those others, but whatever. 53:17.797 --> 53:19.919 The Eightfold Noble Path is the way. 53:21.822 --> 53:30.293 The Satipatthana is taking that way and saying, look, this is the direct way to practice the way, kind of thing. 53:30.633 --> 53:33.396 I think that's the sense I get of that word Ekayana. 53:34.298 --> 53:37.742 It's the direct way to practice the way, the Eightfold Noble Path. 53:46.092 --> 53:50.777 I have read that story about that serial killer becoming enlightened. 53:50.797 --> 53:52.700 What happens to all of the bad karma when this occurs? 53:52.720 --> 53:55.563 Okay, this is something we have to clear up often. 53:56.023 --> 53:57.565 Karma means action. 53:58.767 --> 54:08.277 Okay, I mean, it's nitpicking, but let's be clear because it's easy to think of karma as being this bank or karma being this big bag that you carry over your shoulder. 54:08.358 --> 54:10.480 Karma is something you did. 54:10.460 --> 54:12.583 This is very real. 54:12.983 --> 54:13.744 You did things. 54:14.586 --> 54:16.348 There's no escaping that. 54:16.368 --> 54:16.969 That's true. 54:17.009 --> 54:18.230 We do lots of things. 54:18.671 --> 54:30.527 But you did certain things that were ethically unwholesome, ethically charged, whether positively or negatively. 54:31.739 --> 54:46.964 And we say they're ethically charged because they have some kind of emotional power and they cause suffering or they cause happiness. 54:47.444 --> 54:47.905 But they're done. 54:48.306 --> 54:49.347 Those are done and gone. 54:50.309 --> 54:51.311 But they have a result. 54:51.892 --> 54:52.733 They have an effect. 54:53.013 --> 54:54.596 They change your reality. 54:55.257 --> 54:58.422 So there's not karma that you're carrying around that suddenly disappears. 54:59.971 --> 55:03.438 there's the results of karma, which is called vipaka. 55:03.458 --> 55:07.527 And those results are felt in an infinite number of different ways. 55:07.707 --> 55:10.172 Everything, your whole universe changes with everything you do. 55:11.014 --> 55:17.608 And so all that, when you become enlightened, 55:19.343 --> 55:22.368 It doesn't change your situation. 55:24.091 --> 55:25.833 So the karma doesn't go anywhere. 55:27.616 --> 55:34.427 The actions have been done, but the results are still there. 55:34.627 --> 55:44.423 So any results that resulted from that, say him going into the village for alms and being beaten, which apparently happened, 55:44.403 --> 55:52.257 People saying nasty things about him, people being afraid of him, him having to relive those horrible things, all of that is still there. 55:53.419 --> 55:55.863 But he doesn't react to it anymore, he doesn't react to any of it. 55:55.883 --> 55:59.570 He gets beaten when he goes on alms and he doesn't get upset about it. 55:59.590 --> 56:04.639 People say nasty things or are afraid of him, he doesn't feel guilty or bad about it, he doesn't feel upset. 56:05.952 --> 56:06.853 He doesn't cling to it. 56:06.893 --> 56:07.454 It's gone. 56:07.474 --> 56:11.661 He doesn't feel good about it or proud of what he did. 56:12.342 --> 56:14.825 He knows it was wrong, but he doesn't get upset about it. 56:16.087 --> 56:21.416 And even when he thinks of all the things that he's done, he doesn't feel guilty or upset or bad about it. 56:22.157 --> 56:23.759 He just knows that that was a wrong thing to do. 56:23.799 --> 56:27.625 I mean, clearly, why obsess over it? 56:27.745 --> 56:28.306 It was wrong. 56:28.366 --> 56:28.807 I did it. 56:29.328 --> 56:30.049 There's no question. 56:30.089 --> 56:31.611 I deserve all that comes from it. 56:31.911 --> 56:32.332 That's all. 56:32.793 --> 56:34.896 Next, let's move on, right? 56:34.876 --> 56:41.067 Let's get on with our lives, or maybe not even like that, but just an acceptance of that's the way it was. 56:43.070 --> 56:43.531 That's all. 56:43.952 --> 56:47.538 There's no karma bank, and there's no karma. 56:47.618 --> 56:48.519 Karma doesn't last. 56:48.580 --> 56:49.601 Karma is a thing you did. 56:49.621 --> 56:50.583 That's what karma means. 56:51.184 --> 56:54.049 It means when you do bad things, they have bad results. 56:54.109 --> 56:56.273 When you do good things, you have good results. 56:56.293 --> 56:58.757 But all that means is it changes your reality. 57:06.213 --> 57:08.516 Wow, this interface is pretty neat. 57:11.259 --> 57:15.023 And did you notice there's only one Anamodana button? 57:17.907 --> 57:25.275 If you go to the meditation tab, you click on one button and it gives everybody a thumbs up. 57:25.295 --> 57:26.216 That's really cool. 57:27.178 --> 57:28.239 No more lots of clicking. 57:29.941 --> 57:30.141 Very nice. 57:33.745 --> 57:35.207 They did a great job. 57:36.065 --> 57:41.153 One thing I noticed on YouTube, it looks like actually the last two nights of your broadcast wasn't there. 57:43.556 --> 57:45.299 I think they've stopped recording it. 57:45.900 --> 57:46.961 They've stopped... 57:49.205 --> 57:49.545 I don't know. 57:49.565 --> 57:51.568 That's all I can think is that they're just no longer... 57:51.648 --> 57:55.114 They're just no longer archiving these for us. 57:55.554 --> 58:02.986 But it's funny because in the stream options here it says I have an option to make the archive unlisted when complete. 58:03.787 --> 58:05.329 But I don't want that. 58:07.182 --> 58:12.907 But why would I have that if it wasn't... Google just doesn't have their act together. 58:13.668 --> 58:15.710 They're so mixed up in so many different ways. 58:17.071 --> 58:23.377 I mean, if they weren't a multi-billion dollar company, I wouldn't hold it against them, but they got a lot of money. 58:24.478 --> 58:29.583 It's kind of a shame that their core product... 58:29.603 --> 58:35.569 These are people who aren't paying attention to the Buddha's advice on how to be 58:36.933 --> 58:39.516 how to be successful in a worldly sense. 58:39.536 --> 58:45.284 They're clearly not doing everything right anymore. 58:49.128 --> 58:50.650 All right, it's almost 10 o'clock. 58:51.031 --> 58:51.892 I think we'll stop there. 58:51.972 --> 58:53.934 Hopefully this will be archived. 58:53.954 --> 58:59.081 If not, well, there's already 1,300 of my videos up on YouTube. 58:59.321 --> 59:00.122 Maybe that's enough. 59:03.446 --> 59:03.867 Impermanence and all. 59:03.887 --> 59:03.987 Yeah. 59:05.367 --> 59:11.902 The audio archive should be there, hopefully, on our site. 59:12.845 --> 59:14.408 Anyway, thank you, Robin, for your help. 59:14.428 --> 59:15.651 Thanks, everyone, for tuning in. 59:15.711 --> 59:17.696 We've got 47 people watching. 59:19.460 --> 59:20.322 Have a good night, everyone.